
Yesterday, I reviewed Christian George’s new book, Sex, Sushi, and Salvation. As a follow-up to that review, I am presenting an interview with Christian regarding his book, his pilgrimages, and his hopes for the future generation of Christians.
Trevin Wax: Christian, you have written before about the importance of pilgrimages. Many of your stories in Sex, Sushi, and Salvation are taken from your travels. What are some of the benefits of traveling? How have your travels helped you spiritually?
Christian George: These days, technology allows us to trek across the world. Twentysomethings are traveling today more than any generation prior. And by traveling to sites where God has actively intervened (sacred places), we are discovering the forgotten art of pilgrimage.
The Apostle Peter told the Christians living in Asia Minor that they were pilgrims in this world (I Peter 2:11). We are not nomads, aimlessly wandering in the wilderness. We are not tourists, living for the entertainment of the city. Christians are pilgrims who have their eyes set on a city whose architect and Maker is God.
So whether it’s to a mossy castle or a musty cathedral, traveling increases our view of God. It stretches our faith and moves us out of our comfort zones. It opens our hearts to those suffering in other countries. When we see God’s hand at work in other cultures and countries, our perspective of him changes. Our worship deepens, our prayers lengthen, and we discover that God is internationally involved. I suppose you could say pilgrimage is a discipline for the sole and the soul.
Trevin Wax: Some people might wonder where the title comes from. Why Sex? Why Sushi? And Why Salvation? Briefly, tell us how these three things go together and what you’re seeking to communicate.
Christian George: As I travel and speak in colleges this Spring, I’m discovering that a revival is brewing in my generation. We are hungry a raw faith (a sushi faith) that takes seriously our need for Jesus Christ.
I picked the title for Sex, Sushi, and Salvation because I wanted to communicate the three basic needs of the human heart: intimacy, community, and eternity. Only the God who has given us these three hungers can perfectly satisfy them with Himself. Of course, I’m finding that most people like one of these three things in the title and it’s usually not the sushi.
Trevin Wax: You write about the younger generation that seems to want the meat of the Word and not just the milk. Why do you think this is the case?
Christian George: My generation has seen the failure of the modern church to communicate the essence of the Gospel and we are going back to the Scriptures to see what God has to say. It’s a reformation, so to speak. We are realizing that God’s Word cuts like a samurai sword, and there’s no guard against it. It slices through joints and sinews, even to the very core of us. So we are feasting on preachers like John Piper who are letting the Bible speak for itself, and we are helping ourselves to a raw cut of Christological cuisine.
Trevin Wax: Do you see our generation as full of promise or peril? How do you explain the rise of such disparate movements such as the Reformed Resurgence on the one hand and the Emerging Church on the other?
Christian George: I am optimistic about our generation. But I believe we must proceed with caution. I am encouraged by both the Reformed Resurgence and the Emerging/Emergent Church. The Reformed Resurgence recognizes and broadcasts a bigger view of God, a God who controls the universe and our very lives. That’s beautiful, and biblical.
But I encourage my reformed friends not to make the mistake of early twentieth century religious rut movements that exchanged evangelism for theology. A good theology, a biblical theology, should fuel evangelism, not quench it. And reformed pastors from Martin Luther to Charles Spurgeon have always sought to win the lost for Christ.
I am also optimistic about several venues of the Emerging/Emergent Church movement. I like their questions. Questions like “How does the church live missionally in a postmodern world?” And “What is a Christian’s responsibility to the poor?” These are excellent questions and I believe many in this movement are finding biblical answers.
But I also am rather suspicious of those in this movement who replace theology for personal experience. We don’t need to neglect the mysteries of the Bible - mysteries like the atonement of Christ, the doctrine of heaven, the reality of hell, the call to live holy lives, etc. These are the core elements of the Christian faith, and when we neglect them or underemphasize them, we run the risk of losing our church to the world in order to draw our world into the church.
Trevin Wax: You write about your recent suffering through kidney stones, not to mention a bleeding disorder you had for several years. What has God taught you through suffering?
Christian George: Suffering is the reality of our mortality. Yet, in God’s mysterious system, He uses our pain to draw us to Himself. I hope you never have to pass a kidney stone. It’s like having a baby through a straw. But in those hellish moments, those agonizing, passing out moments, I discovered that God was right with me there in the pain.
It brought me back to the mystery of the incarnation, when God became a man. When the Creator became the creation. Wow! To think that God would experience the throb of a headache and the sneeze of a cold. That the One who spoke planets into orbit would puke up the left-overs of a bad meal. That God would have diarrhea. Well, that is certainly beyond me. But during those bitter moments, it blessed me to know that the sufferings of earth were not below our Savior.
Trevin Wax: You have spoken about the church in the West and the need for us to either “revive or rot.” What steps can pastors and lay people take to see that the Church in the West revives?
Christian George: I’m currently writing a book about why knowing God changes our lives. It should be out in a year or so. It is no secret that Christianity is sinking into the global south. North America is going the way of Europe (a dehydrated Christianity) while Africa and South America are being splashed with revival.
I believe pastors and lay people in this country can revive by going back to the Scriptures, by practicing spiritual disciplines like prayer, silence, and solitude, and by living radical lives for Christ. We are ordinary people, but we don’t worship an ordinary God. And he is calling us to cultivate a worship that revolve less around ourselves and more around him. Songs like “In Christ Alone” and “Were it not for Grace” teach us how modern songs and hymns can be written in a way that elevates God to his face.
The United States of America is a land of sedated saints. But I am encouraged to see my generation waking up and getting ready to take a leap of faith. Hope is on the horizon.
Interview with Christian George © 2008 Kingdom People blog